While we at the Center for the Study of Science recommend you listen to the Cato Daily Podcast, well, daily, today’s edition may be of particular interest. Host Caleb Brown spoke with Senator James Inhofe (R‑OK) about the Clean Power Plan, regulatory overreach and American competitiveness. While they didn’t delve much into climate science, they touched on the inadequacy of global climate agreements.

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